When it’s time to say goodbye and you’ve exhausted your options to take the conversation somewhere else, you want to give the girl an opportunity to show interest and offer her number before you have to do it. You do this by ending the conversation with “It was really nice meeting you” and shutting up. If she does like you, she will squirm and get anxious, and probably make a move. If she doesn’t offer the number outright she may compliment you to encourage you to get it.

The rest of what I wrote was pretty down on getting numbers. I painted it as a consolation prize for not fucking her. You came, you tried, here is a sequence of ten numerals for your troubles that odds are will not result in anything. But even though numbers are not strong, you still must get them every time. As long as you want to fuck her, get the number, no exceptions. Behind every number is a chance for a notch, and even a small chance is worth taking.

Say you are an average player and have a great month where you get ten numbers. Out of those ten, about four will return your first call. Out of those four, you may get two or three girls out on a first date. Out of those two or three first dates you will probably get one notch if your middle and late game is good. So if you are average, it takes you ten numbers to one notch. Do you now see why it’s important to get numbers?

Calling girls takes very little time, and there is also a low opportunity cost because there are not many ways talking to a girl for five minutes on an off night could be better spent. It tightens your phone game, and unless you start using your experience now to improve with girls you have average interest in, you will cost yourself some more important notches down the road. Even now, when I’m out there I still get phone numbers of girls I’m not crazy about.